Tuesday 31 July 2012

Father’s on Edge, Poytner’s Ommission and Supremist Feminist Influence in Reporting


Father’s on Edge, Poytner’s Ommission and Supremist Feminist Influence in Reporting
July 30, 2012
By Harry Crouch

http://ncfm.org/2012/07/news/feminism-supremist/fathers-on-edge-poytners-ommission-and-supremist-feminist-influence-in-reporting/

First, I am fairly happy Dad. I’ve never been beaten and battered by the Family Law System like the hundreds if not thousands of disenfranchised fathers with whom I’ve had contact or directly worked, but I know it happens. I’ve been in court and witnessed such pummeling’s more times than I can possibly recall.

That said, investigative reporter Bilbo Poynter recently wrote the troubled Dad article, Fathers on Edge, a tragic custody case draws attention of groups convinced family courts are biased.

Poynter, Executive Director at Canadian Center for Investigative Reporting, cites several horrific child custody cases in which fathers lost their children, went to prison, attempted to murder a judge, and committed suicide by self-immolation – he torched himself. Implications abound, largely by omission and perhaps a bias by the reporter that something other than the Family Law System caused their violence. Poynter points toward a handful of comments posted on a few websites in the “manosphere”as indicative of the anger and hatred of displaced fathers.

The tragic and horrific examples chosen by Poynter are not representative of Father’s or Men’s Rights groups, they are anomalies.  All civil rights movements have them. The feminists had Andrea Dworkin, Robin Morgan, Valari Solanas, and a litany of others.  Heroes to some, scorned by others, it’s all relative to one’s perspective and history. Either way, Poynter might have noted the historical similarities if for nothing more than clarity.

Counter points are offered from Professor of Law, Susan Boyd and Associate Criminologist Molly Dragiewicz, who is quoted as saying, “People will view these groups (fathers rights, clarification mine) as fringe groups that don’t require serious attention, when in fact they’re using the abusive and intimidating behaviours they used in their relationships”– clichéd Women Industry psychobabble and propaganda.

For you doubters, Ms. Dragiewicz’s holds two college degrees in Women Studies.  And, Ms. Boyd, holds the endowed research Chair in Feminist Legal Studies, and is Director of the Centre for Feminist Legal Studies at University of British Columbia. Both are from the school of blame it on men, the same school that invented women designed for men only re education shame, blame, and guilt programs, legally sanctioned on men using abusive forms of intimidation and retribution delivered by and through the Family Law System. Poynter didn’t report that part; or, most telling, he didn’t report that both Boyd and Drgiewicz are trained Women Industry operatives.

Interestingly, Poynter doesn’t report attempting to contact credentialed heavy-hitter contributors to the Father’s and Men’s Rights movements. A cub investigative reporter for a school newspaper, let alone an executive director of an investigative reporting organization, could easily find the likes of Steven Baskerville, Warren Farrell, or even Canadians Donald Dutton and National Post Columnist Barbara Kay. They are not hard to find and could have offered more insights leaving perhaps a more balanced report.

To his credit, Poynter interviewed NCFM Canadian Liaison Earl Silverman who struggles to operate the only shelter for abused men in Canada, which in and of itself should tell anyone with an IQ over 2 that men and their children are disparately treated by the Family Law System.

Additionally, Poynter seems to use “Father’s Rights” and “Men’s Rights” interchangeably, apparently taking no time to learn the distinction. Men’s Rights Advocates are generally concerned with Father’s Rights as a subset since they extend to all men and children. The Men’s Rights Movement is also concerned with issues like circumcision, selective service, human trafficking, men’s health, man bashing, and a host of other issues not generally found in the Father’s Rights camps.

I’m always disappointed when my life stumbles me into people like Poynter. I naively expect better. I wonder where they went to college and whether they immersed themselves in Women Studies like the women above. Poynter is Executive Director at Canadian Centre for Investigative Reporting, which at the very least screams that he should above all others know how to report things objectively and with clarity. Alas, in this article, the facts he uncovered are somehow construed to leave the reader not with the basis for objective thought, but seemingly to view men in distress poorly, especially distraught fathers, even dead ones, if not all men.

The fact that Poynter did not tell readers that Susan Boyd and Molly Dragiewicz were credentialed Women Industry operatives is discrediting, regardless of other strengths and shortcomings. Poynter’s history of work is impressive, though this article appears lacking and, intentionally or otherwise leaves a reader with wrong impressions of distraught fathers deprived of their family, children, finances, and freedom. Without further investigation, it seems Poynter doesn’t understand the subject he is writing about.

 http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Fathers%2Bedge/6968504/story.html

Linked back to http://www.mensrighthelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2039

Monday 30 July 2012

A message from Dan Moore (Factory)



I have been living with severe depression, with varying degrees of success, for 27 years. As is common in those with depression, I didn’t recognize the signs at first, and men present depression differently from women. Oddly enough, men tend to present as angry, when really they are depressed.

Of course, this is all old hat for me, and had nothing to do with recent events. Since its all over the net anyway, I might as well tell you all what happened so it may serve to help others understand they are not alone.

In addition to the usual MRM related shit and abuse, I’ve been carrying around some baggage in real life. And it’s sorta relevant, so I’ll bring it up.

I’ve been through abusive relationships, lost my children to poverty, lost a house and new car, been cheated on, used, and belittled. Like nearly everyone else. I’ve also been chronically underemployed, again like most people.

Pretty regular stuff really. But add in the depression and you have serious problems. And while in hospital, nearly everyone else in there was also there for depression. So again, I’m not exactly a special case. And in a perfectly regular way, I planned my own execution.

After I finished work, I was going to take the hose (exhaust hose, about 4 inches around) that I had bought, drive out to a secluded spot (not hard to find in SK) and gas myself. I sent out an email to those who would need to know what happened, thinking it was by then too late to stop me. Paul proved me wrong on that score, by the way. Oddly enough, it really pissed me off that I couldn’t finish my work properly while I sat in the back of the cop car.

I’ve recently become rather disgusted with, and mistrustful of, police….but in this case, they made the right call. They ‘arrested’ me and took me to hospital, where I would spend the next week. And it was a good call, and I thank Paul for doing that. That might be because I have a supportive employer. It’s probably because I’m still alive to say it.

In addition, the doctors were well aware of the predominance of male depression, as well as the stats on male suicide. Encouragingly, at least around these parts, they are very much interested in promoting the issues surrounding men and depression. A few nurses had even heard of the MRM, and one of them slipped and called me ‘Factory’ once. So I took heart in that a little, and I hope you do too.

I’ve regained my balance, by the way, so I think you may find me a little less angry these days. Still disjointed, but calmer. I have read many of the comments you have left, by the way, and as I said to Paul I’m flabbergasted, since I didn’t really think anyone would care.

Apparently, depression fucks with a guys perspective.

Anyway, I hope this is enough for now. There may be something else coming out of this experience, and if so I’ll let you all know. In the meantime, thanks again for your concern and support.

Written by
Factory

http://www.avoiceformen.com/men/mens-issues/a-message-from-dan-moore-factory/

Dr. F Show
by AVoiceforMen
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Sat, July 28, 2012

G'day Everybody.


Today we are listening to our Dan Moore talk about his recent crisis and how he got through it. He's bigger faster and smarter now and the feminists hate him all the moore ...... 

More:  http://www.blogtalkradio.com/avoiceformen/2012/07/29/dr-f-show?utm_source=BTRemail&utm_medium=ShowReminder

Link back: http://www.mensrighthelp.com/posting.php?mode=edit&f=8&p=4254

Thursday 26 July 2012

Some Good News From Hamilton

Today I had some running around to do and decided to stop in at a local patio for some lunch. My Server a fresh out of university student was a nice young woman who while having a psychiatrist degree is working as a bartender and server at the establishment.
When I was finishing my meal she came out onto the patio for her smoke break, I have to say she was very attentive and was about to put her smoke break on hold to clear my table but I let her know that it was alright if she had her smoke as I was going to have one as well.
We had a bit of a conversation and I let her know I was a men's rights activist.
At that point in time I expected her to jump up and run away, she didn't.
We sat for about 15 minutes and I let her know about a few issues in that time. I have to say that at the end of the conversation I was pleasantly surprised in that she agreed with everything I was telling her about the injustices inflicted on men by the femmie factions.
When I was leaving I paid her the compliment of being an intelligent woman for that is exactly what she is. She already knows that feminist ideology is a load of horse shit.
I think I will go back there again next month for another lunch I do hope to talk to that intelligent level headed woman again and I do hope she is able to get a job in her chosen profession. IMHO she would do a world of good for the men who have been fed through the meat grinder we call a justice system.
Just thought I would pass on this little bit of good news, we need to hear it sometimes guys.

Dannyboy


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Good going Dannyboy, excellent conversation on AVFM blog talk program.

Every one should listen to our Dannyboy and our Canadian MRA's by clicking on the link below.
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Wednesday 25 July 2012

Fathers on the edge


FEMINIST MEDIA BIAS


 A tragic custody case draws the attention of groups convinced family courts are biased



Still, fathers' rights groups should be taken seriously. "People will view these groups as fringe groups that don't require serious attention, when in fact they're using the abusive and intimidating behaviours they used in their relationships. This should be a concern that this person is capable of certainly intimidation, harassment and threats, if not actual acts of violence," says Molly Dragiewicz, a criminologist at the University of Ontario Institute of Technology who studies the father's rights movement.
The comments about the Warwick tragedy on other men's rights sites are angry, too. "R.I.P. to this once beautiful loving family. I am sure some feminazis are chuckling how this is a victory to them, how this man was pushed to the limits to do something like this," reads a post from Admin1 on the mensrighthelp.com forum.

This didn't need to happen," adds Admin1 a little later on, "we are starting to see more and more of this from fathers." The discussion then turns to how women still kill their children more than men do; though the discussion participants admit to each other that the statistics to prove this just aren't there, there's certainty this information is being suppressed.
A study done by researchers at the Royal Ottawa Hospital of 11 years of data into paternal filicide - fathers who kill their children - found that between 1990 and 2001, 77 children in Quebec were killed by their fathers. Forty-six (60 per cent) of the homicides were followed by the suicide or attempted suicide of the father. The researchers also conclude that more fathers than mothers commit filicide in Quebec.[/quote]


Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Fathers%2Bedge/6968504/story.html

Original post by mensrights-help: http://www.mensrighthelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1994

Tuesday 24 July 2012

What Has Feminism Done For You?

What Has Feminism Done For You?



Feminist member of RadFem Hub Commits Suicide

she wasn't the greatest person in the world and obviously troubled, but where was her sister supporters when she needed them? No one should have to take their life with all the support available especially to women!

Farewell.
Sunday, July 15, 2012 at 10:35 PM | By: Femitheist Divine
I'm going to rewrite this because I wasn't really in the proper state of mind when I wrote it originally.

I am going to be honest. It is going to sound corny, and I am going to be spilling my heart to a bunch of strangers who absolutely hate me, but here goes...

A friend of mine asked me the other day, during an argument unrelated to any of this, if I knew what it was like to tell the truth about anything anymore. And, I realized, that I really don't. I'm a liar, and I always have been. I haven't lied about the things that have happened to me, and I wasn't lying about what I wanted to do when I wrote the posts on this Blog...

But, I've come to the realization, after thinking for a long time about something that someone told me a few weeks ago, and about the people around me, that I was wrong. I've always wanted to be a victim because I never feel that the sympathy and attention I get from others is enough. I decided that I'd rather be hated by everyone if no one would ever love me.

Being abandoned by so many people and lied to left me wanting to watch the world burn, as cliche as that sounds. I lied here on every post and response about wanting to help people, I lied about loving people. The only person I care about is myself, and that's the way it has always been. I've always wanted others to feel the same way about me that I do about me. Anything less than absolute adoration leaves me feeling empty. I wanted to just find people who would do anything I told them to, even if it meant causing them to harm themselves, because I felt like everyone else deserved to feel the same way that I do. Female or male.

I want to say to everyone who has read or will read this Blog, or has interacted with me in the past, that I am sorry. I'm leaving this Blog up as a reminder of what I've felt, but I am done posting here and anywhere else.

People have been asking what happened to me and why the police were called. The police were called because there was a fight, and I got elbowed in the mouth by someone on accident. That's it. All it did was bust my lip and bruise it a little. I wasn't a part of the fight, I was just too close. It wasn't a big deal. I also got fired from my job about a week ago because of all the phone calls the store was receiving about me. I don't know what I'm going to do now.

Anyway, it's been nice meeting all of you, despite the overwhelming hatred for me. I wish you all well. I read your discussions in the comments section(s) of the posts all the time, and I think that the dissenters here are all much better people than I can ever hope to be. I have a lot left to learn. I think that this was necessary for me.

I truly am sorry. I was wrong. Everyone who said that my agenda here was entirely selfish was correct. I really did hate everyone, including myself, and I wanted to try to cause anyone else I could harm and pain. I really did feel that way when I wrote those posts, but I understand that I was wrong. I feel that there must be something wrong with me, because I cared so much about looking for people to worship me, and I felt incredibly angry and upset when I couldn't refute what someone was saying. I really just wanted to be right so that I could be admired by someone, anyone at all.

None of you will be hearing from me again after this. This is my final post. I won't be looking at any of my accounts after today. I may have severely damaged my life with this. I hope not, but I may have. I am not a martyr, I am not a God, I am not much of anything. I was just an angry person, and now, I'm a person who has to try to figure out how to correct their mistakes. I'm going to be stuck with this forever, I feel...

My daughter won't be raised this way. I want her to be a person who loves everyone like I am incapable of loving people. I truly hope that she doesn't ever find out what I've done here, because I don't want her to reject me too.

Anyway, farewell everyone. I wish you all well.

Sincerely,
Krista


Thursday 19 July 2012

The Terrible Twats: Tory Shepherd, Betty McLellan and Michael Flood


Back linked to: http://www.mensrighthelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2015

03:09:00 am, by Chris Key   , 1216 words     Categories: Feminist Propaganda [AU], Opinion, Misandry


The Terrible Twats: Tory Shepherd, Betty McLellan and Michael Flood

The Terrible Twats: Tory Shepherd, Betty McLellan and Michael Flood
Our friend from The Punch, Tory Shepherd, recently penned a one-sided article about Townsville's James Cook University refusing to stop one of its female lecturers from sexually vilifying men. The university's refusal to act on the matter led to the complainant, Dr Greg Canning, to quit his teaching position at JCU. Dr Canning reported colleague Dr Betty McLellan to the university after he stumbled upon the following passages in her opinion article, 'The Question on Nobody's Lips', which was published on radical feminist website, RadFem Hub:

"Even in the face of horrendous violence by men against women and children (Darcey Freeman; and Tania Simpson and daughter Kyla Rogers) along with allegations of high profile men raping and abusing women (Dominique Strauss-Kahn; Silvio Berlusconi); even with all the evidence we have that something’s not quite right with the male of the species, there is still impenetrable resistance to focusing on men’s behaviour and asking: what is it about men? It seems that the only people with the courage to ask that question are radical feminists.
So we have to ask: When the common denominator in most of the hideous violence that occurs in families, in society and globally is MEN, how come the right question is never asked? How come no one ever asks: what is it about men?"

Ms Shepherd's response was rather short and inaccurate:
"Dr McLellan wrote on radical feminist website RadFem Hub that in light of male violence and rape we should be asking ourselves what it is about men that leads to these behaviours."

Ms Shepherd did not see anything wrong with Dr McLellan portraying men as flawed creatures in need of a cure. Nor did she see anything wrong with Dr McLellan wrongfully accusing men of being the main perpetrators of domestic violence.

If Ms Shepherd was as intelligent, competent and knowledgeable as she seems to think she is then she would know that over 280 studies have found women are just as likely as men to initiate domestic violence and, women are more likely than men to use a weapon against an intimate partner. Reports from the Centre of Disease Control and Prevention have found women are the primary perpetrators of child abuse. These facts have been publised on Men's Rights Online and are accessible to anyone who takes the time to research the issue. That means Ms Shepherd is either a lazy journalist who failed to research the subject or is too biased and agenda driven to write a balanced article.

In contrast to the short summation of Dr McLellan, Tory dedicated a fair chunk of her aticle to Dr Greg Canning, labelling him a "men's rights extremist" and saying saying he works for a "hate site". The site she was referring to is A Voice For Men. Anyone who is familiar with AVfM knows it is anything but a hate site. There are strong views on AVfM, but those views are quite tame when compared to the hysteria and delusion that is abundant on websites such as RadFem Hub.  A review of the responses left under the comments section of Betty McClennan's piece is proof of it. For example, one of the commentators, who goes by the name sehkmet, said that men's violence against women is not studied:

"I would love to see a study on male violence against women. Unfortunately those statistics aren’t kept. This is one of the reasons that opponents of the Violence Against Women Act can say they can see no difference that the law has made."
sehmet
July 16, 2012 at 10:32 pm

Anyone who has been to the Australian Bureau of Statistics website will know that there are plenty of publications on "violence against women". Same goes with the Bureau of Justice (US) and Statistics Canada. Pretty much every Human rights organisation and community centre in Australia trots out statistics on "violence against women". Only a delusional idiot who lives under a rock would be oblivious to the fact that many studies about men's violence against women have been conducted.

But the insanity on RadFem Hug doesn't end there. Some of the women who responded to Dr Betty McLellan's article went as far as to say men are abnormal and not human.

"In the culture men are portrayed as either bungling idiots who can’t figure out how to boil an egg or else savage sexual predators with no self control. Rad/fems tend to reject these versions of men and expect them to be capable of taking responsibility for their actions, almost as if they were full human beings."
yttikbr
June 1, 2011 at 2:41 pm

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"It was clear to me as a child that there was something wrong with men, with men as a class. I learned this from observation, but also was taught it by what women told me. I was taught to be afraid of men as a young girl."
KatieS
June 2, 2011 at 12:15 am

If that isn't a form of hate speech, then what is?

More importantly, why is Tory Shepherd not lambasting these delusional women?

In the article Tory Shepherd penned for news.com.au, 'Carnivorous men' versus 'lying bitches' in sex war, she refers to Michael Flood as a "gender and violence expert":

Gender and violence expert Dr Michael Flood, a senior sociology lecturer at the University of Wollongong who has had disagreements with Dr Canning and men’s rights activists in the past, said vitriol and extremism were rife online.
He said the false rape allegation claims were a standard way men’s rights activists tried to discredit rape victims.
"It ends up disempowering victims and protecting perpetrators," he said, adding that false rape allegations were rare and likely made as often by men as by women.
Source: news.com.au

Anyone who is familiar with Michael Flood knows that he is not an expert on "gender and violence". The man routinely upholds outdated feminist theories on domestic violence, such as the Duluth Model, which has been well and truly refuted by over 280 scholarly investigations on domestic violence. In 2009, Michael Flood promoted feminist theories on domestic violence as the blueprint that any school-based program aimed at tackling domestic violence should be based. Floods' insane stance on the matter can be seen in the report, Respectful Relationships Education Violence prevention and respectful relationships education in Victorian secondary schools.

If Mr Flood's biased, ideologically driven stance on domestic violence isn't enough reason to steer clear of him when citing a neutral source, the fact that he tried to discredit a father's group by sending out offensive letters to members of the Australian parliament, disguised under the name of the orgainsation to make it appear they were unstable.

"I [Greg Canning] just want to preface this excellent article with our own experience with Michael Flood. He has on a previous occasion mis-represented himself as a separated father in order to unethically and fraudulently gain access to our resources that we had struggled to make available for the benefit of distressed fathers.
He then proceeded to misuse these facilities and send out offensive letters in the name of Fathers4Equality to every member of the Australian federal parliament, in an effort to discredit and undermine our efforts and reputation.
We conclusively tracked down this misuse of our facilities to Michael Flood, at his campus office at James Cook University. We then contacted him and confronted him with this misuse of such important resources for separated and distressed fathers.
He initially denied and refuted his involvement in these bizarre actions, but in the face of overwhelming evidence he finally accepted that it was his actions, and his alone, and he apologized for these unethical acts."
Source: F4E.com.au

Full article at:
http://news.mens-rights.net/index.php/au/the-terrible-three-tory-shepherd

Tuesday 17 July 2012

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